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Rockin Robin
17th January 2007, 07:40 PM
If your birds go through a lot of fat buy a big tub of fat off www.wigglywigglers.co.uk (http://www.wigglywigglers.co.uk), (sorry CJ's) this is great value and is easily put in a dish on your bird table, mix dried mealworms with the fat which is easily scooped out with a spoon. The robins love it as well as blue tits, great tits etc. My birds go a bowl full a day. It is also good for refilling fat logs by covering one end with your hand and pushing in as much fat as possible with a spoon.
collosal hi-energy bucket price: £12.75 for 6kg
storye_book
18th January 2007, 07:20 AM
hi rockin robin
i would question this - i'm surprised that wiggly wigglers has supplied this for birds. this fat as you describe it is soft enough to scoop - yet if you watch birds eating fat, you can see that it needs to be hardened. if you don't harden it, you'll see them wiping the stickiness off their beaks onto branches all the time - they find sticky fat irritating and clogging.
all cj's fatcakes have been hardened. hardening also means that the fat won't easily melt in warm weather or dissolve in rain.
if you make your own fatcakes, you can harden ordinary suet by melting it and setting it twice. to speed up the process, you can:
- melt just the suet in a saucepan,
- stand the pan in cold water to take the heat off it,
- put it in the freezer for 15 mins or so to set the fat (while you have a cup of tea),
- take the pan out and stand it in hot water to take the ice off it,
- then re-heat it on the hob,
- then add your ingredients as usual.
you can still make your normal fatcakes in half an hour, max.
ok, it's a little more trouble, but it's more suitable for u.k. birds. also, you can buy ordinary suet in small amounts at a time in the supermarket, for pennies.
Rockin Robin
19th January 2007, 07:42 PM
it isn't soft it is hard to scoop and the birds love it.Wriggly wrigglers is a good bird feeding company, not some naf place. I use a metal spoon,it is good and is as hard as the suet cakes of cj's.
storye_book
20th January 2007, 10:46 AM
it isn't soft it is hard to scoop and the birds love it.Wriggly wrigglers is a good bird feeding company, not some naf place. I use a metal spoon,it is good and is as hard as the suet cakes of cj's.
well now i'm really puzzled. firstly, you originally said that the wrigglers fat is 'easily scooped out with a spoon'. now you are saying it's hard to scoop. cj's fat cakes are so hard that the fat is not scoopable at all, so maybe you haven't tried them yet?.
i'd be very interested to see you trying to scoop a cj fatcake with a spoon. please kindly send us a photo of that?
the point is - if fat is scoopable, it's too sticky for the bird's beaks. if you cared to watch them at all, you'd see that. that's why cj's fatcakes are hardened. there's a reason.
Rockin Robin
21st January 2007, 03:50 PM
when i said easy i meant it coud be scooped out, it is good as the birds eat it and have gone through loads, you seem to be trying to defy me
storye_book
21st January 2007, 05:15 PM
sorry, i'm not sure i quite understand you. would you explain that please?
Rockin Robin
21st January 2007, 05:20 PM
i think scoopis the wrong really, it sort of comes off in chunks, i can assure you it is not soft at all but a really good idea if birds in your garden eat a lot of fat.
storye_book
22nd January 2007, 10:26 AM
“If your birds go through a lot of fat buy a big tub of fat off www.wigglywigglers.co.uk (http://www.wigglywigglers.co.uk/), (sorry CJ's) this is great value and is easily put in a dish on your bird table, mix dried mealworms with the fat which is easily scooped out with a spoon."
“it isn't soft it is hard to scoop [ . . . ] it is good and is as hard as the suet cakes of cj's.”
“i think scoopis the wrong really, it sort of comes off in chunks, i can assure you it is not soft at all"
. . . . . . . . ha!
Rockin Robin
22nd January 2007, 05:53 PM
. . . . . . . . ha!
Can you explain this please
p.s. i am not a salesman if i was i would do a better job than that
Emma
27th January 2007, 06:55 PM
Blimey, Storey_book, untwist your knickers!
The "Colossal High-Energy Bucket" as shown above is made from SUET and seed. It's fine for birds.
"if you don't harden it, you'll see them wiping the stickiness off their beaks onto branches all the time"
That's what birds do - it's the same as you wiping your mouth.
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